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Want to hear from the movers and shakers of the surveying profession? Each week, NSPS brings you conversations with the trendsetters and difference-makers that are helping to shape the world of surveying. Your host, NSPS Executive Director Tim Burch sits down with various personalities to discuss all things surveying, all bundled in a 30-minute conversation.
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Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
EP206 Kimberly Odom, PSM - Delta Land Surveyors, LLC
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
This week, we feature a special surveyor who is more than doing her part to promote the profession and help educate our future surveyors! "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" finds us chatting with Kimberly Odom, PSM and owner of Delta Land Surveyors in Monticello, FL. She leads the way with the multi-generational business (learning the biz from her father!) and having family around her every step of the way. Tim Burch recently caught up with Kim to talk about her promotion of the profession at public events and parades as well as "planting the seeds" within elementary school kids about the wonderful career of surveying. You can't help but being impressed after this episode, so check it out today!

Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
EP205 Woody Money PSM, GISP - Surveyor @ NAVFAC
Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
We met today's guest at the Esri UC25 while enjoying the Special Interest Group (SIG) session on surveying hosted by our own Linda Foster. This episode of "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" highlights the recent conversation with Woodrow "Woody" Money, PSM, GISP, and Surveyor at NAVFAC SE Cadastral Department as part of the US Navy. He chatted with Tim Burch about his journey from GIS into surveying, making the transition from the private sector to public servant, and the variety of projects that will make most surveyors jealous. Woody also shared how the Navy is embracing GIS technology within their surveying operations. A great discussion so give it a listen today!

Monday Jul 28, 2025
EP204 - Seneca Holland
Monday Jul 28, 2025
Monday Jul 28, 2025
Hello from the Esri UC25 in sunny San Diego! "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" gave us the opportunity to catch up with Seneca Holland, Geospatial Research Scientist & Instructor of Geospatial Science at the Conrad Blucher Institute for Surveying and Science located within Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi. She joined Tim Burch to share her role at the Institute and her new role as Co-Chair of the NSPS Education Committee. Lots of great insight to the role of a modern surveying and geospatial educator so buckle up and have a listen!
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Thursday Jan 16, 2025
EP203 - Carl R. C.de Baca - Surveyors & California Fires
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
This week's episode of "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" takes on the serious subject of surveyors and their role dealing with wildfires. Our guest, Carl C.de Baca, a professional land surveyor with R.E.Y. Engineers, Inc. from Folsom, CA. Carl and Tim recently sat down to discuss conditions of performing parcel tracement in post-disaster condition, biohazards to consider, and compilation of records research and data collection processes. A can't miss conversation so check it out today!
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Saturday Dec 14, 2024
EP202B - NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN) Election 2025 - Meet the VP Candidates
Saturday Dec 14, 2024
Saturday Dec 14, 2024
Get ready to fill your NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN) ballot for new officers! How? Listen to this episode of "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" for a terrific conversation with the two candidates for Vice President, Farrah Etcheverry (Arizona) and Jon Geffre (South Dakota). Lots of great insights to the collaboration of this exciting group, so check it out today! YSN members are eligible to vote, so make sure you are signed up today. Elections close on December 31st!

Saturday Dec 14, 2024
Saturday Dec 14, 2024
Get ready to fill your NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN) ballot for new officers! How? Listen to this episode of "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" for a terrific conversation with the two candidates for Secretary, Stacy Pollock (Michigan) and Adam Thayer (Idaho). Lots of great insights on the collaboration within this exciting group, so check it out today! YSN members are eligible to vote, so make sure you are signed up today. Elections close on December 31st!

Friday Oct 18, 2024
EP201 - Patrick Veraguth, Minnesota County Surveyor
Friday Oct 18, 2024
Friday Oct 18, 2024
This episode of "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" asks the question: what does a county surveyor do? It turns out to be much more than we anticipated! Patrick Veraguth, County Surveyor for Douglas and Grant County (MN), and current president of the National Association of County Surveyors (NACS), joined Tim Burch to discuss the role and much more. Pat shared the day-to-day responsibilities of the country surveyor as well as their role in informing AND protecting the public. An informative conversation, so check it out today!

Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
EP200 - The NSPS YSN and the Future of Surveying
Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
This week’s recording marks the 200th episode of the “Surveyor Says!” podcast and rather than look back at where we have been, we decided to look ahead to the future of surveying. And who better to have as our guests than the current Young Surveyors Network officers, Nolan Mark, President, Cam Lowe, Vice President, and Spencer McCutcheon, Secretary.
They were all gracious enough to take some time out of their busy schedules to talk with me about what is going on right now in the profession, what are the positives we have going for us, and what the future of surveying looks like from their perspective.
A great conversation you do not want to miss!

Thursday Oct 03, 2024
EP199 - Carl Bert, PLS - "Training the Next Generation"
Thursday Oct 03, 2024
Thursday Oct 03, 2024
"Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" is all about connecting the past, present, and future, so this episode is no exception. Our guest this week is Carl Bert, PLS, a Pennsylvania surveyor who is looking to give back to the profession through mentoring. He recently sat down with Tim Burch to discuss his introduction into surveying, the events that led him to start his own company, and why mentoring is the next chapter of his storied career. They talked about a common thread of the "art of boundary line determination" and how this unique skillset can be taught to the next generation of surveyors. An inspirational chat about our beloved profession, so check it out today!
https://www.cbasurveyconsultant.com/

Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
EP198 - Vasileios "Vas" Kalogirou
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
How does a surveyor get from Greece to Texas? Our "Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast" episode visits with Vasileios "Vas" Kalogirou, RPLS to hear about his journey. He recently joined Tim Burch to chat about growing up in a surveying family, using his early training as an artillery surveying in the Greek army, and making the decision to be near his wife's family in the US. Vas shared his views on paying it forward by being a mentor to inexperienced surveyors and why all surveyors should share what they know. An inspiring conversation you don't want to miss!
